Jun 27, 2020 • 48M

Episode 18: A Reckoning Is Afoot, A Rattled Rationalist, A False Karening, And A Troubled Liberal Enclave

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Jesse Singal
Journalists Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal scour the internet for its craziest, silliest, most sociopathic content, part of an obsessive and ill-conceived attempt to extract kernels of meaning and humanity from a landscape of endless raging dumpster fires.
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A reckoning is afoot, as Jesse finally confronts Katie over her abusive managerial style. After the hosts get that out of the way, they proceed into a discussion about The New York Times' decision to publish the famed rationalist blogger Scott Alexander's full name -- and the rather effective-seeming countermeasure Alexander pulled in response. Then they move onto a broader conversation about journalistic ethics with regard to naming subjects against their will, and Katie talks about the time she was publicly shamed for trying to defend someone against a public shaming. In the second segment, the hosts discuss a New York Times story about a Minneapolis neighborhood's difficulties living up to its stated values, and, by working through about their own views about when to call the police, establish the podcast's formal Cop Policy. 

Show notes/Links:

Amazon: The AI Does Not Hate You: Superintelligence, Rationality and the Race to Save the World by Tom Chivers -  https://www.amazon.com/Does-Not-Hate-You-Superintelligence-ebook/dp/B07K258VCV 

Slate Star Codex: NYT Is Threatening My Safety By Revealing My Real Name, So I Am Deleting The Blog -  https://slatestarcodex.com/2020/06/22/nyt-is-threatening-my-safety-by-revealing-my-real-name-so-i-am-deleting-the-blog/ 

Slate Star Codex (archive): I Can Tolerate Anything Except For The Outgroup -  http://archive.is/https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/ 

Twitter: @keikoinboston on Karlos Dillard's scam:  https://twitter.com/keikoinboston/status/1276780086545592320 

The New York Times: A Minneapolis Neighborhood Vowed to Check Its Privilege. It’s Already Being Tested. -  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/us/minneapolis-george-floyd-police.html 

Slate Star Codex (archive): Sort by Controversial -  http://archive.is/https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/10/30/sort-by-controversial/ 

The Stranger: A Slur, a Suicide Attempt, and Guns Akimbo -  https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2020/02/25/42967202/a-slur-a-suicide-attempt-and-guns-akimbo 

Amazon: Self-Care: A Novel by Leigh Stein - https://www.amazon.com/Self-Care-Novel-Leigh-Stein/dp/0143135198/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= 

Eventbrite: EXTREMELY ONLINE conversation for SELF CARE -  https://www.eventbrite.com/e/extremely-online-conversation-for-self-care-tickets-109886766276