The line for the women’s room is never shorter in “gender inclusive“ environments because typically either “non-binary” males think that get to go to the women’s bathroom or they take out the women’s room altogether, and only have a men’s and gender neutral. I swear to God, I have seen this in multiple bars and restaurants, and nothing makes me more incandescent with rage.
The worst place I saw where all the women’s rooms had been turned into gender neutral bathrooms was the biology building at my community college. The BIOLOGY building.
Some of the lessons and material you recounted from the nursing school made me concerned about the trajectory that health care is on, so that seems like a tie to me.
Like I would listen to a whole episode about gender-neutral bathroom policy. It is the stupidest thing ever. If TWAW then let them use the women’s bathroom and let us keep some shadow of the lovely, clean ladies’ rooms we used to enjoy as one of the major privileges of being female
I mean, starting when public restrooms first became segregated by sex in about 1900, it basically meant that it was illegal for nonbinary people to use a public restroom at all. I can't believe a bigger deal hasn't been made out of 125+ years of nonbinary people not being allowed to pee!
Someone needs to do an in-depth documentary on this. Maybe nonbinary people are born with extra bladders and that's how you can tell they're nonbinary on an X-ray?
My favorite is when they take out a men's room and a women's room each of which accommodate a dozen people, and replace them with like 6 individual stalls. Seen that at a few big facilities.
Do not like the gender-neutral bathrooms, as a trans woman. Not only does it lead to longer lines (guys really just need urinals most of the time and that's much quicker/denser) but also, sorry men, sharing a toilet with you is unpleasant because, even when you manage to mostly get stuff into the bowl, there's a lot of splashing that goes everywhere.
yes the major divide is sit to pee/stand to pee! i don't care if a trans woman is in the women's bathroom as long as she sits to pee so there's not piss everywhere.
Marx for sure thought eventually we should transition away from money (like most anarchists/communists), and most of his followers do to.
The more honest/thoughtful among them, or sometimes also the just naive and unself-reflective, then recreate money in one way or another because you cannot run the economy without it.
So a lot of "everything is free and people just get what they need, but also people get handed out "chits" based on the type/amount of work they do and get less/more/different chits based on the amount/type of work they do.
Sort of like the communists in the Spanish Civil War where your factory being freed from the Capitalists meant instead of working there for shit wages you instead we expected to work there for no wages or were threatened with violence. lots of "we killed your boss so you don't need to worry about him anymore, and we will be back in a month and expect the same output, you aren't a fascist sympathizer are you?".
This has nothing whatsoever to do with my point, though. I stated that none of the far leftist or Marxist-leaning individuals I know have ever demanded that a small business of which they are a customer give them any product for free because private property is bad. I'm talking about staunchly materialist Marxists. Nothing you say here refutes my claim.
The only anarchist I know is staunchly anti-communist, btw. (Also anti-trans and anti-germ theory, but that's neither here nor there.) As for the younger snotnoses making up the ranks of unicorn riot and black block, these people are useful idiots for fascism. I don't know any Anarchists who apply Marxist thought seriously to any kind of economic or political analysis. When I say "Marxist thinker" I am thinking, say, of Michael Hudson.
Guyssss… I have been listening to this show since it’s inception and only just now realized that Will Stancil and Patrick Tomlinson are two different people. I had amalgamated them together into a single white male shit lib hate target of right wing online trolls that can’t stop posting through it.
No, it could use just one fewer, specifically Peter Thiel. That man truly frightens me.
Anyway, I'm surprised Katie and Jesse didn't mention that Tomlinson's case against one of his harassers went to the Supreme Court and they ruled against him. The Supreme Court is out of their fucking minds for ruling that what Patrick experienced wasn't harassment. I wouldn't go so far as to say that they legalized stalking, but what they effectively did was say that stalking is a-okay if your stalker isn't literally threatening to physically harm you. Fucking idiotic, what the hell do they think stalking even is?
It was a joke about how Thiel is a particularly dangerous person who happens to be gay (two things that are unrelated to each other to be clear), not a suggestion that politics actually needs less gay representation.
I suspected this is what you were thinking of, but it did not involve Tomlinson nor say that SWATing people isn't harassment. It's about the standard required for liability: either intentionality or recklessness. (Whether specific conduct meets that standard is not the sort of thing the SC decides.)
HAH! Oh, awesome to hear about Pittsburgh on here. Maude's has been a drama hub for years, so dig through their socials and track who goes from integral to opposition. There are articles too: the old co-owner, Indigo, went from amazing to on the outs. A 2022 launch piece names her as co-founder of Maude's alongside Athena Flint (the primary owner) and credits her as the bar's show-booker since 2013, but the current Maude's "About" page lists only Athena, Maura, and Ringa, no Indigo.
It used to be just an occult goods store (Paperwing Gallery was its own brick and mortar at 210 Grant Ave then moved upstairs over the bar). The LLC actually traces to late 2020 with Athena as sole owner on paper, which is its own little gap from the co-founder story. Extremely empathetic, kind people with terrible hiring judgment. They do charge a cover on the big nights (dance parties, drag, ticketed stuff like Queer Prom), but the recurring free programming still needs staff and heat, and the door fees aren't covering it, hence the multiple GoFundMes.
The neighborhood has the worst parking in the world, so getting there is already a hassle.
Having worked queer/gay events for a while, there's always the socialist crowd that ruins everything and doesn't grasp that the places they haunt have to pay rent and wages. After a while you understand why someone got booted from the anarchist bookstore. The usual kind of thing we hear about on here... someone builds something, others decide it should be handed over despite not laying a single brick.
Hoping this group keeps it together, because they put effort into their events. It's very much a friend's-friend's-basement vibe, good for popping in before a show if you have time to actually get served, because they are NOT fast. Normies seem welcome, and the themed events were mostly people there for the programming.
Opie and Anthony got Sam Adams to sponsor sex in public, resulting in the desecration of a Catholic Church? Maybe the problem is Boston. It’s not just the letter “R” that Bostonians lack, but the capability for shame.
O & A seem awful, but at the same time Jesse and Katie seemed a little over scandalized by the whole thing. As though some public sex is the end of the world. IDK didn't seem like the worst segment to me, and pretty low grade as far as crimes go.
It wasn't like sponsoring a bum fight or something.
Also if you're violently assaulted, as far as I'm concerned, you get to call them anything you want.
And an enormous percentage of people of a certain demographic behave like absolute savages and bullies, and noticing this fact and not being happy about it does not make you a racist..
If you're more upset or offended by mean words than by thugs or chickenheads assaulting people, your ethical priorities are deeply screwed up.
Obviously embellishing the "metoo hasn't gone far enough," but I agree in the way Katie told the story. It gives the impression this was some widespread social debauchery happening regularly.
"Shock jocks" is right.
And yeah, they were dicks for sure, but they could also, in my estimation, be incredibly funny, in part to Anthony having ad-lib comedic chops before going absolutely nuts and Opie being a decent facilitator. Their appeal rested on interacting with regular guests like Jim Nortom, Patrice O'Neal, and Louis CK, all of which had pretty incredible chemistry and were outrageously funny. They made some magic!
But for the rest of the show, this all tracks with my twenyish appearances at a DC con. (Held most of the time at The Washington Hilton where Reagan was shot, and the incident this year….}
All of this tracks. The O+A stuff was some of the death rattles of the FM Morninh Zookeepers.
FWIW, many of the nerd crowd have fled X for BlueSkeet.
I don’t think lib woman in charge much appreciated my “Because YOU’RE Scared” masks in, uh, 2024?
Instigating 375 swatting incidents only gets you four years?!
Wtf?! That's a minimum of 375 incidents of attempted murder (more if any home has more than one resident), not even counting the danger to police officers.
That should be life in prison if you ask me, if not the death penalty.
How can two people as terminally online as Jesse and Katie not know about the icon of Reddit lore known as the poop knife?!
https://www.reddit.com/r/MuseumOfReddit/comments/ke8skw/the_poop_knife/
Online for them means a handful of vocal Twitter circles. They have very limited knowledge of Internet culture elsewhere.
Ding motherfucking ding.
Excuse me I think you meant ding MF dong
A friend who worked in a Starbucks definitely had a memorable poop knife story.
Time to tell the story now.
What?? All this time I thought poop knife was where you would lay one out; then freeze it; then sculpt it into a prison shiv
Same. There was even a study demonstrating that it wasn't actually possible:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352409X19305371
Yes, exactly!!
https://www.themeateater.com/conservation/anthropology/fact-checker-did-explorer-peter-freuchen-save-his-life-with-a-poop-chisel
Damn it! You beat me to it!
Yeah, my thoughts exactly: how can they not know?
But too be fair, I also thought that the poop knife meme meant a frozen turd for the longest time but learnt better a few months ago.
The reddit story is somehow more disturbing.
My wife knows about Patrick and I was going to send her this podcast but I don't want to have to deal with questions about this.
Really let themselves down there
I thought the same thing
The line for the women’s room is never shorter in “gender inclusive“ environments because typically either “non-binary” males think that get to go to the women’s bathroom or they take out the women’s room altogether, and only have a men’s and gender neutral. I swear to God, I have seen this in multiple bars and restaurants, and nothing makes me more incandescent with rage.
The worst place I saw where all the women’s rooms had been turned into gender neutral bathrooms was the biology building at my community college. The BIOLOGY building.
My condolences, sister
Some of the lessons and material you recounted from the nursing school made me concerned about the trajectory that health care is on, so that seems like a tie to me.
That is both funny and dark.
Like I would listen to a whole episode about gender-neutral bathroom policy. It is the stupidest thing ever. If TWAW then let them use the women’s bathroom and let us keep some shadow of the lovely, clean ladies’ rooms we used to enjoy as one of the major privileges of being female
Don’t let them use the women’s bathroom. They’re not women!
I am just asking the movement itself to be internally consistent.
I mean, starting when public restrooms first became segregated by sex in about 1900, it basically meant that it was illegal for nonbinary people to use a public restroom at all. I can't believe a bigger deal hasn't been made out of 125+ years of nonbinary people not being allowed to pee!
They have not been able to pee for A HUNDRED YEARS how did they survive?
Someone needs to do an in-depth documentary on this. Maybe nonbinary people are born with extra bladders and that's how you can tell they're nonbinary on an X-ray?
I understand. I just wish it wasn’t such a big movement that seems to be everywhere and affecting everything.
I am with you - I hate it
My favorite is when they take out a men's room and a women's room each of which accommodate a dozen people, and replace them with like 6 individual stalls. Seen that at a few big facilities.
Do not like the gender-neutral bathrooms, as a trans woman. Not only does it lead to longer lines (guys really just need urinals most of the time and that's much quicker/denser) but also, sorry men, sharing a toilet with you is unpleasant because, even when you manage to mostly get stuff into the bowl, there's a lot of splashing that goes everywhere.
yes the major divide is sit to pee/stand to pee! i don't care if a trans woman is in the women's bathroom as long as she sits to pee so there's not piss everywhere.
Apparently men are like cats, and they spray to mark their territory in the Men's room. Women, trespass at your own risk.
Imagine if we had two sports leagues, "men" and "open."
I hate this because I hate using a public toilet where someone who stands to pee has used it because they're incapable of not pissing everywhere
Lol I wonder if it's because even the restaurant owners know that non-binaries are just women looking for attention. Still frustrating
Lol I wonder if it's because even the restaurant owners know that non-binaries are just women looking for attention. Still frustrating
Lol I wonder if it's because even the restaurant owners know that non-binaries are just women looking for attention. Still frustrating
Lol I wonder if it's because even the restaurant owners know that non-binaries are just women looking for attention. Still frustrating
Salivating over the Twinks for Trump episode tease. Can't wait.
AND DURING PRIDE MONTH!
That's the problem when your customers are far lefty or Marxist: they think your product should be free because Capitalism.....
Weird, I don't know any Marxists who think this way. Are you sure you aren't thinking of lumpenprole anarchists?
Marx for sure thought eventually we should transition away from money (like most anarchists/communists), and most of his followers do to.
The more honest/thoughtful among them, or sometimes also the just naive and unself-reflective, then recreate money in one way or another because you cannot run the economy without it.
So a lot of "everything is free and people just get what they need, but also people get handed out "chits" based on the type/amount of work they do and get less/more/different chits based on the amount/type of work they do.
Sort of like the communists in the Spanish Civil War where your factory being freed from the Capitalists meant instead of working there for shit wages you instead we expected to work there for no wages or were threatened with violence. lots of "we killed your boss so you don't need to worry about him anymore, and we will be back in a month and expect the same output, you aren't a fascist sympathizer are you?".
This has nothing whatsoever to do with my point, though. I stated that none of the far leftist or Marxist-leaning individuals I know have ever demanded that a small business of which they are a customer give them any product for free because private property is bad. I'm talking about staunchly materialist Marxists. Nothing you say here refutes my claim.
The only anarchist I know is staunchly anti-communist, btw. (Also anti-trans and anti-germ theory, but that's neither here nor there.) As for the younger snotnoses making up the ranks of unicorn riot and black block, these people are useful idiots for fascism. I don't know any Anarchists who apply Marxist thought seriously to any kind of economic or political analysis. When I say "Marxist thinker" I am thinking, say, of Michael Hudson.
I thought Marxist were like Communists and believed in no private property? I guess I made a weak joke.....
Guyssss… I have been listening to this show since it’s inception and only just now realized that Will Stancil and Patrick Tomlinson are two different people. I had amalgamated them together into a single white male shit lib hate target of right wing online trolls that can’t stop posting through it.
"The White House could use more gays."
No, it could use just one fewer, specifically Peter Thiel. That man truly frightens me.
Anyway, I'm surprised Katie and Jesse didn't mention that Tomlinson's case against one of his harassers went to the Supreme Court and they ruled against him. The Supreme Court is out of their fucking minds for ruling that what Patrick experienced wasn't harassment. I wouldn't go so far as to say that they legalized stalking, but what they effectively did was say that stalking is a-okay if your stalker isn't literally threatening to physically harm you. Fucking idiotic, what the hell do they think stalking even is?
Obnoxious “well actually” on this one. Scott Bessent is the highest ranking openly gay US public official ever.
It was a joke about how Thiel is a particularly dangerous person who happens to be gay (two things that are unrelated to each other to be clear), not a suggestion that politics actually needs less gay representation.
Sorry. Wasn’t disagreeing with you. Just adding my comment to yours because I didn’t feel like it necessarily warranted its own comment thread.
What case about Tomlinson went to the SC?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/06/29/supreme-court-harassment-ruling-first-amendment/
I suspected this is what you were thinking of, but it did not involve Tomlinson nor say that SWATing people isn't harassment. It's about the standard required for liability: either intentionality or recklessness. (Whether specific conduct meets that standard is not the sort of thing the SC decides.)
HAH! Oh, awesome to hear about Pittsburgh on here. Maude's has been a drama hub for years, so dig through their socials and track who goes from integral to opposition. There are articles too: the old co-owner, Indigo, went from amazing to on the outs. A 2022 launch piece names her as co-founder of Maude's alongside Athena Flint (the primary owner) and credits her as the bar's show-booker since 2013, but the current Maude's "About" page lists only Athena, Maura, and Ringa, no Indigo.
It used to be just an occult goods store (Paperwing Gallery was its own brick and mortar at 210 Grant Ave then moved upstairs over the bar). The LLC actually traces to late 2020 with Athena as sole owner on paper, which is its own little gap from the co-founder story. Extremely empathetic, kind people with terrible hiring judgment. They do charge a cover on the big nights (dance parties, drag, ticketed stuff like Queer Prom), but the recurring free programming still needs staff and heat, and the door fees aren't covering it, hence the multiple GoFundMes.
The neighborhood has the worst parking in the world, so getting there is already a hassle.
Having worked queer/gay events for a while, there's always the socialist crowd that ruins everything and doesn't grasp that the places they haunt have to pay rent and wages. After a while you understand why someone got booted from the anarchist bookstore. The usual kind of thing we hear about on here... someone builds something, others decide it should be handed over despite not laying a single brick.
Hoping this group keeps it together, because they put effort into their events. It's very much a friend's-friend's-basement vibe, good for popping in before a show if you have time to actually get served, because they are NOT fast. Normies seem welcome, and the themed events were mostly people there for the programming.
Here's the insta if you're curious: https://www.instagram.com/queerwitches/
“We are anti-capitalist. Let’s try a version of unpaid labor.”
“It went how it usually does only faster…”
Forty-eight minutes in with two minutes to go and we still haven’t gotten to the stuff described in the title of this episode.
No stalker children, I have never been blocked or reported. Enjoy prison.
Pet peeve: It should be “Speakuneasy” and not “Unspeakeasy.” You cannot unspeak.
Opie and Anthony got Sam Adams to sponsor sex in public, resulting in the desecration of a Catholic Church? Maybe the problem is Boston. It’s not just the letter “R” that Bostonians lack, but the capability for shame.
O & A seem awful, but at the same time Jesse and Katie seemed a little over scandalized by the whole thing. As though some public sex is the end of the world. IDK didn't seem like the worst segment to me, and pretty low grade as far as crimes go.
It wasn't like sponsoring a bum fight or something.
Also if you're violently assaulted, as far as I'm concerned, you get to call them anything you want.
And an enormous percentage of people of a certain demographic behave like absolute savages and bullies, and noticing this fact and not being happy about it does not make you a racist..
If you're more upset or offended by mean words than by thugs or chickenheads assaulting people, your ethical priorities are deeply screwed up.
Obviously embellishing the "metoo hasn't gone far enough," but I agree in the way Katie told the story. It gives the impression this was some widespread social debauchery happening regularly.
"Shock jocks" is right.
And yeah, they were dicks for sure, but they could also, in my estimation, be incredibly funny, in part to Anthony having ad-lib comedic chops before going absolutely nuts and Opie being a decent facilitator. Their appeal rested on interacting with regular guests like Jim Nortom, Patrice O'Neal, and Louis CK, all of which had pretty incredible chemistry and were outrageously funny. They made some magic!
But for the rest of the show, this all tracks with my twenyish appearances at a DC con. (Held most of the time at The Washington Hilton where Reagan was shot, and the incident this year….}
All of this tracks. The O+A stuff was some of the death rattles of the FM Morninh Zookeepers.
FWIW, many of the nerd crowd have fled X for BlueSkeet.
I don’t think lib woman in charge much appreciated my “Because YOU’RE Scared” masks in, uh, 2024?
Poop knives are for cutting large loops that are too big to flush.
Here’s a breakdown on the internet lore:
https://youtu.be/InxxUbdIeGw?si=VcN5szv70MS3KVsB
I could have used one of these the other day 😂😂
Instigating 375 swatting incidents only gets you four years?!
Wtf?! That's a minimum of 375 incidents of attempted murder (more if any home has more than one resident), not even counting the danger to police officers.
That should be life in prison if you ask me, if not the death penalty.
This episode makes me realize how much I’ve grown because I live in Pittsburgh and hadn’t heard of any of this
Oh no please not harambe. How is it possible that is 10 years ago??!