I have friends, slightly more subtle, who act and speak as though all white people are elite *because they and all the other white people in their lives are*.
It's really, really good to get outside your socioeconomic bubble. Recent economic research has focused on how this is beneficial for poor people; I think it's essential for richer people, too.
You mean they are white and all their friends are white?
My high school was majority Asian, with a lot of poor families. Everyone. Literally. Went to college. My first college roommate was white and first person in her family to go to college. Got a full scholastic college. Couldn't understand the course material and kept going home to her bf. Failed first semester. Dropped put by Valentines Day.
Maybe she went back to school and graduated but I am not sure. She was not elite. Versus my other suotemates. One was black, daughter of a professor and a nurse and she is now a nursing professor. The other e as white, daughter of a truck driver and stay at home mom. This is not 1954 anymore.
I mean they are white and all their specifically white friends are well off. They don't know any poor white people, so they think white = rich and POC = poor.
This despite the fact that we've had six years of political arguments about the "white working class" and so forth. These particular friends seem to think of poor white people as racists out there in the boonies, much like people used to tell stories about witches in the woods at night. Not a lot of interest in trying to reconcile their personal experiences with the reality of the rest of society.
When talking with such friends, I often think of the research finding that the main effect of diversity trainings is to make trainees more contemptuous of poor white people.
At my diversity training this one woman said how she is poor and white but she knows her family had better access to welfare benefits than black families.
I have no idea if she believed it or if it was true. All I know was it was in alignment with the idea that a white person could never be in a worse position than a POC , and that PICs can never have power.
YouтАЩre right. IтАЩm the first generation of my family on either side to not have dirt floors to grow up on. IтАЩm glad we donтАЩt have the kind of poverty earlier generations endured anymore but for crying out loud people read a book!
One way to look at it is. How is a recent immigrant from Albania elite? How about someone who grew up in a trailer park in Florida? More importantly. Is an upper middle class black family less elite than a poor white one?
Or even. There are black CEOs. How is that CEO less elite than a white mid-level exec?
The argument only works in that white people in general do not have to prove they belong. Black people in general do not.
OTH. I have a client who kept going on about "elites," which he explained were white people. He felt that white people were advancing more at his company than he was. And most lf the higher ups were white. And in that sense white people do tend to be more elite. It ignores all the poor white people or the growing number of wealthy black people
Exactly. Somehow class gets totally thrown out, as if working-class and wealthy whites are exactly the same. Bizarre.
I had a friend tell me that "all white people are elite." I am sure that it's just not true, but how do you even argue with someone like that?
I have friends, slightly more subtle, who act and speak as though all white people are elite *because they and all the other white people in their lives are*.
It's really, really good to get outside your socioeconomic bubble. Recent economic research has focused on how this is beneficial for poor people; I think it's essential for richer people, too.
You mean they are white and all their friends are white?
My high school was majority Asian, with a lot of poor families. Everyone. Literally. Went to college. My first college roommate was white and first person in her family to go to college. Got a full scholastic college. Couldn't understand the course material and kept going home to her bf. Failed first semester. Dropped put by Valentines Day.
Maybe she went back to school and graduated but I am not sure. She was not elite. Versus my other suotemates. One was black, daughter of a professor and a nurse and she is now a nursing professor. The other e as white, daughter of a truck driver and stay at home mom. This is not 1954 anymore.
I mean they are white and all their specifically white friends are well off. They don't know any poor white people, so they think white = rich and POC = poor.
This despite the fact that we've had six years of political arguments about the "white working class" and so forth. These particular friends seem to think of poor white people as racists out there in the boonies, much like people used to tell stories about witches in the woods at night. Not a lot of interest in trying to reconcile their personal experiences with the reality of the rest of society.
When talking with such friends, I often think of the research finding that the main effect of diversity trainings is to make trainees more contemptuous of poor white people.
At my diversity training this one woman said how she is poor and white but she knows her family had better access to welfare benefits than black families.
I have no idea if she believed it or if it was true. All I know was it was in alignment with the idea that a white person could never be in a worse position than a POC , and that PICs can never have power.
Exactly! IтАЩm white and upper middle class. I have WAY more in common with a black person of my class than a working-class white guy.
YouтАЩre right. IтАЩm the first generation of my family on either side to not have dirt floors to grow up on. IтАЩm glad we donтАЩt have the kind of poverty earlier generations endured anymore but for crying out loud people read a book!
One way to look at it is. How is a recent immigrant from Albania elite? How about someone who grew up in a trailer park in Florida? More importantly. Is an upper middle class black family less elite than a poor white one?
Or even. There are black CEOs. How is that CEO less elite than a white mid-level exec?
The argument only works in that white people in general do not have to prove they belong. Black people in general do not.
OTH. I have a client who kept going on about "elites," which he explained were white people. He felt that white people were advancing more at his company than he was. And most lf the higher ups were white. And in that sense white people do tend to be more elite. It ignores all the poor white people or the growing number of wealthy black people
I think I started reading Jesse because he was that leftish guy on Twitter who kept going on about how class matters.