Listen now (71 mins) | Image via Getty After Jesse provides Katie with a Dead Dog Update, and Katie fills Jesse in on some important details about the female reproductive system (he’s still not interested), the hosts talk about Brianna Madia’s attempts to turn the tables on the losers and the haters who have been tormenting her online. At what point does anonymous online trolling get so bad that perpetrators deserve to be unmasked?
This episode is cliteral violence.
I'll go on the record and say a vaginoplasty vulva is not a female one. Mediclit lady is odd and not a great spokesperson, but she is right.
That was a perfectly acceptable response to Katie from whoever this lady is -- y’all did laugh at her. I don’t think she was threatening Moose. And also I personally think it’s entirely fair for people who spend their days endlessly tormenting others online to not expect that their identities should stay anonymous. The snark subs are evil, I mean genuinely genuinely disturbing and evil. I’m a nobody and I’ve been targeted before for saying something nice about the wrong influencer (the sub posted my picture after i did and it was extremely scary.) The posters feel emboldened to say and do whatever they want. There should be no expectation of anonymity if you are making someone’s life a living hell.
I don’t know what’s worse--the twelve antisemitic jokes Katie managed to cram into one episode, or the casual penis-hate. As a gay Jew, I found it all very triggering. But what else should I expect from a podcast steeped in white supremity and toxic masculinacy?
Yet again we hear Jesse and Katie talk about the BARpod Reddit but never a peep about the commenters on Substack, who actually pay to comment (a sure sign of quality).
Silence is violence, I've been told. ;-)
The influencer’s response to Katie was actually fair. It’s entertaining, but Katie and Jesse absolutely insulted this woman in the previous episode. It was a little dumb for Katie to then try to initiate contact with her without acknowledging that.
If nothing else, vulvagate has maybe taught people that the part they can see isn't called a vagina.
Unimportant to the story but still worthy of mention is that Brandon Sanderson is a) one of the most prolific modern authors of fantasy, the dude churns out content relentlessly, and b) has successfully created original fantasy worlds, not just derivations of Tolkien’s (itself derivative, which is not a knock, he made the genre what it is, and I adore him). If you like fantasy I highly recommend Sanderson’s Stormlight Archive series.
Ok, but "you are incapable of picking your own pussy out of a lineup" is an amazing insult.
I might not be the first to say this, but I was kind of annoyed about J & K hemming and hawing about the shooter's pronouns. This shouldn't even be a consideration worthy of any matter of discussion. She murdered innocent children and staff trying to protect those children. F her pronouns. If they can't even say "ordinarily I'd be respectful of pronouns but this person didn't respect the lives of 3 children, 3 adults, and any number that will forever be traumatized by that day" -- it's pathetic.
Women in the UK are being forced to use their rapists' preferred pronouns instead of the ones you'd associate with a dick-wielding human, which is insane. The hand-wringing about the Nashville shooter isn't much better.
People who troll online should fully expect to receive the same treatment in return. There's no such thing as a one-sided weapon. I have no sympathy for the subreddit users who went after Madia and then cried when their own tactics were used against *them*.
Heat and kitchens, glass houses and stones.
Pooh. First post I am listening while walking my little angel rescue dog. (I do not like saying she is a rescue dog but I mention it due to the story about the vanlife chick). Anyway .I wish Katie were a little less sarcastic. The first Twitter story - so Wired did a mean story about a fantasy author. What does Twitter have to do with it? And why were they mean?
Hell's Kitchen really is the new Chelsea. So fucking gay.
The homeless in NYC - there are many now with serious mental illness threatening people. Huge problem on the UWS.
The labia lady (perfect, ha) - if she IS targeting black ob/gyns, I wonder if it is because they work with African immigrant populations, which are more likely to do female circumcision then other groups ).
ETA: my blood pressure went up hearing the Brianna post from 2020 about the long overdue racial reckoning. That btw was when I truly thought I had lost my mind
As if Ferguson had no happened and police departments had noy made changes that DID save lives. As if nothing had happened. Ugh. Everyone in this story is distateful
Hearing that Jesse dresses like a Peanuts character is going to have me giggling all day. That image will be permanent in my mind and nothing is going to overwrite that.
I’m on the homeless lady’s side here. Did she go a little far in response? Possibly. But John Wick did too. John Wick did too.
So, more evidence that social media turns people into characters from Lord of the Flies?
Can we discuss how Madia’s story is a modern day retelling of Euripides’ Medea?