Yes, the mealy-mouthed bit by Jesse in this episode has lead me to cancel my subscription. The show is literally about internet bullshit, so hand-waving away substantive criticisms on how he covered it through "this isn't something serious that we should be talking about" is Michael Hobbesian levels of disingenuous.
Fare the well BARpod, you were interesting and different once.
Yes, the mealy-mouthed bit by Jesse in this episode has lead me to cancel my subscription. The show is literally about internet bullshit, so hand-waving away substantive criticisms on how he covered it through "this isn't something serious that we should be talking about" is Michael Hobbesian levels of disingenuous.
Fare the well BARpod, you were interesting and different once.
The story was never important- it was the media blow up about it that is important. A woman was nationally vilified and in danger of losing her job because of it. That’s why it matters.
The villification of the woman is disgusting, as is media apologia for the teen boys.
Excusing shit like this will lead to a right-wing backlash. I'm not blaming Jesse and Katie for anything that happens, politically speaking (this podcast is not that important), but this episode/issue will no doubt be a kind of final straw that breaks the camel's back, and causes people to reject the Dems and vote GOP.
In fairness, to Jesse he does think that's a bad thing and has been quite clear about it. He's vague about who was in the wrong but, his position seems to be that even if Sarah was in the wrong she didn't deserve that level of vitriol.
The "villain" being a teenager also makes it kinda unappetizing to join the pile-on. I kinda got the impression that's why Jesse was hesitant to engage further.
There is some ferociously racist stuff about this kid on the grosser right wing places, just as much about the lady (though her facing employment changes is unconscionable). The less attention given to this the better.
Yes, the mealy-mouthed bit by Jesse in this episode has lead me to cancel my subscription. The show is literally about internet bullshit, so hand-waving away substantive criticisms on how he covered it through "this isn't something serious that we should be talking about" is Michael Hobbesian levels of disingenuous.
Fare the well BARpod, you were interesting and different once.
I don’t think this is at all important. At all. In the least. The whole story is embarrassing and it’s embarrassing to care about. For every side.
The story was never important- it was the media blow up about it that is important. A woman was nationally vilified and in danger of losing her job because of it. That’s why it matters.
The villification of the woman is disgusting, as is media apologia for the teen boys.
Excusing shit like this will lead to a right-wing backlash. I'm not blaming Jesse and Katie for anything that happens, politically speaking (this podcast is not that important), but this episode/issue will no doubt be a kind of final straw that breaks the camel's back, and causes people to reject the Dems and vote GOP.
In fairness, to Jesse he does think that's a bad thing and has been quite clear about it. He's vague about who was in the wrong but, his position seems to be that even if Sarah was in the wrong she didn't deserve that level of vitriol.
The "villain" being a teenager also makes it kinda unappetizing to join the pile-on. I kinda got the impression that's why Jesse was hesitant to engage further.
How can someone be piled-on when nobody knows that who that person is?
Also, as far as I've seen, no one cares about the person per se, it's about the person's actions.
There is some ferociously racist stuff about this kid on the grosser right wing places, just as much about the lady (though her facing employment changes is unconscionable). The less attention given to this the better.
I've not seen this at all. Do you have any links to back that up?
I hesitate to even post this but here, enjoy https://twitter.com/vdare/status/1665177429453750274?s=20
I can only imagine. Eww.
What "pile on"??
The woman was suspended from her job, publicly named and smeared all over the internet.
You don't care that a woman was suspended from her job and was totally and utterly smeared in the media and online? Odd stance.
Nonsense.
They literally describe themselves as a podcast about internet bullshit.