> This is partly explained by academic deficits and job market forces, but it’s also driven by the perceived hostility of liberal arts colleges toward conservatives & (white) men.”
Alright. I'm going to play a bit of the contrarian here on the "male gap". And a little on the conservative gap.
> This is partly explained by academic deficits and job market forces, but it’s also driven by the perceived hostility of liberal arts colleges toward conservatives & (white) men.”
Alright. I'm going to play a bit of the contrarian here on the "male gap". And a little on the conservative gap.
The gap is almost entirely concentrated in the liberal arts. In fact, if you look at STEM degrees men overwhelming dominate.....something like 80%.
I propose the reason less men are attending college for liberal arts degrees is because they can earn as much or more by just immediately going into the job force. Especially if they're willing to work physically hard, dirty, risky blue collar work. And for the rest, the gap between college educated and not is very small. Usually you can catch up or exceed that gap within the 4 or 5 years it'd take you to slog through a non-STEM bachelors. The ROI just isn't there for men unless you're going for a STEM.
And let's just be honest....the majority of the population isn't academically capable of doing well in those careers.
You see a similar pattern for "liberal domination". In the STEMS, 50% or less identify as liberal or democrats. While the other 50% identify as mostly moderate and independent.
I have absolutely no idea about the political leanings of virtually all my STEM professors in Engineering. It just doesn't come up in discussions of differential equations or LaPlace transforms. And no one talks about whether Boyle's Law maximizes social equity.
I realize this is an old comment but you are 100% correct. The Comp Sci department at my college was 14% female and by far most of the women were exchange students from China. I believe this was the case for the Engineering department as well, maybe even less women. Mathematics had a higher percentage of women (maybe 22% female) but I think that might have to do with the fields of teaching and actuarial science attracting more women. Not sure. Anyway no political discussion ever happened, not even when Trump was elected. We were too busy struggling with our projects and too exhausted to care about much more than passing our really tough classes.
> This is partly explained by academic deficits and job market forces, but it’s also driven by the perceived hostility of liberal arts colleges toward conservatives & (white) men.”
Alright. I'm going to play a bit of the contrarian here on the "male gap". And a little on the conservative gap.
The gap is almost entirely concentrated in the liberal arts. In fact, if you look at STEM degrees men overwhelming dominate.....something like 80%.
I propose the reason less men are attending college for liberal arts degrees is because they can earn as much or more by just immediately going into the job force. Especially if they're willing to work physically hard, dirty, risky blue collar work. And for the rest, the gap between college educated and not is very small. Usually you can catch up or exceed that gap within the 4 or 5 years it'd take you to slog through a non-STEM bachelors. The ROI just isn't there for men unless you're going for a STEM.
And let's just be honest....the majority of the population isn't academically capable of doing well in those careers.
You see a similar pattern for "liberal domination". In the STEMS, 50% or less identify as liberal or democrats. While the other 50% identify as mostly moderate and independent.
I have absolutely no idea about the political leanings of virtually all my STEM professors in Engineering. It just doesn't come up in discussions of differential equations or LaPlace transforms. And no one talks about whether Boyle's Law maximizes social equity.
I realize this is an old comment but you are 100% correct. The Comp Sci department at my college was 14% female and by far most of the women were exchange students from China. I believe this was the case for the Engineering department as well, maybe even less women. Mathematics had a higher percentage of women (maybe 22% female) but I think that might have to do with the fields of teaching and actuarial science attracting more women. Not sure. Anyway no political discussion ever happened, not even when Trump was elected. We were too busy struggling with our projects and too exhausted to care about much more than passing our really tough classes.