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Crazy Elf's avatar

The other part of this is that Hamas leadership are craven cowards that aren't even in Gaza. They're very likely in Qatar or Iran (Iran hosting Sunni militants seems out of place, but the enemy of my enemy and all that).

I mention this not only because they're reprehensible pieces of shit, but because Israel is going to kill them at some stage. In order to do that they're going to need to find out where they are and how much opportunity they have to pull it off. Bombings, and the rush of communications that flow out in the wake of them, may provide opportunities to do this.

It's easy to hide, unless you're forced to talk to everyone you used to know. Killing Hamas leadership in Gaza will create those opportunities.

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Anonymous's avatar

I find it very interesting how no one seemed to be concerned with civilian casualties when France was bombing ISIS in response to the Bataclan massacre (with one fourteenth the number of killed on 10/7). In fact the Wiki page doesn't mention civilian casualties at all:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op%C3%A9ration_Chammal

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Crazy Elf's avatar

I think the real difference is that ISIS were globally renowned as reprehensible cunt monkeys across the globe, whereas Hamas is being conflated with the Palestinians. The Palestinians have a far softer reputation, globally, particularly in left wing circles.

That's their reputation globally, at least. When I was in Jordan they had a horrid reputation, but that may have had something to do with Black September in 1970.

The Lebanese aren't huge fans of them, either, as they had a lot to do with sparking the Lebanese Civil War in 1975.

None of that makes them all culpable for what's happening now, or for anything that happened back then. The vast majority of Palestinians had nothing to do with any of it. This courtesy is rarely extended to the Israelis.

So... the further away you get from Palestine, the more glowing the view of them tends to be. ISIS never received praise of that nature, except from people with severe mental health issues.

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JesterColin's avatar

Every once and a while I look at the Wikipedia page for the war against ISIS solely because the opponents section is probably the longest for any war ever, pretty much every country, every militant group, every other Jihadist group, were all opposed to ISIS. It’s the one time something that could even be tangentially called an army declared war on the entirety of Earth.

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positivelypolarized's avatar

Why doesn't Israel Drone hamas's leaders in Qatar? Mossad excels at extrajudicial assassinations. Or get the Qatari government to hand them over?

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Theodric's avatar

Because the largest US military base in the Middle East is in Qatar. Obviously the Qataris are playing both sides here to a degree, but in this case it probably renders any direct action on Qatari soil off limits.

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Crazy Elf's avatar

Drones get a lot of press, but for targeted assassinations they're not that great. If you want to guarantee the kill, you basically guarantee civilian casualties, which would be unwise on foreign soil with a country they're not at war with.

Also, we all think they're in Qatar, but I can't guarantee that. The rats are likely darting all over the place in fear of Israeli assassins. It'll take work to pin them down.

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