Yes he spoke up, but I wouldn’t say that makes him considerably less of a pussy. I’m also not a fighting type, and I agree with his idea that aggressively seeking out fighting isn’t good, but it shouldn’t have been a look the other way thing at all. That’s the problem. He’s still a pussy cuz he just looked the other way until he finally couldn’t. Like almost all the other people on that train. So slightly less a pussy maybe, but not considerably. You gotta get up and make it clear that the behavior is unacceptable and if enough people start doing that together you can back down most of the crazies. And maybe the normal people can take back that shithole city.
Do you live in NYC, and ride the subway frequently?
Ignoring even crazy situations is the norm. And even if you're inclined to be a good Samaritan when you first move here, living in the city changes you.
Partly it desensitizes you, but mostly it's a matter of survival. You encounter crazy people and aggressive thugs looking for a fight every single day, often multiple times a day. You quickly realize that avoiding eye contact and pretending not to notice is the only way to be left alone (most of the time). You also realize that if you do get involved in an altercation, chances are that no one will help you. It's sad but it's true. And you realize this even more keenly if you've ever been assaulted, or had a close call, but you know in any case.
So yes, Jesse was significantly more brave than the average New Yorker.
Maybe that's a low bar, maybe that's a sad state of affairs, but the reasons for that aren't the fault of Jesse, or, any individual. We have a culture and society and legal system and media ecosystem where every incentive is to ignore everything and stay out of it.
I mean I live in Albuquerque so I completely understand everything you’re saying. Look at the wrong person funny and now you have a fentanyl fiend trying kick your ass or rob you. So most people do mind their business. But that is a problem. Especially for NY as I understand public transit is heavily relied on. I drive because I don’t wanna get stabbed by a bus crackhead. But I would fucking hope if that crackhead was trying to stab me people would intervene. That you cannot rely on the guy sitting next to you on a bus or train to help you fend off crazy homeless drug addicts is fucking pathetic. I’m not a fighter but I’m definitely not one to sit back and watch such injustice. It just takes all of us pussy normal people to push back but everyone’s head is so far up their own ass their fellow man can fuck off and fend for themselves.
It’s disgusting how far we’ve fallen. Just basic shit has gone out the window. Yeah the bar is about as low as it can can get. I just hate it so much. How do you fix that on a societal level? I don’t think you can.
There are steps that can be taken. Our politicians, prosecutors, and law enforcement leadership can stop arresting people for defending themselves. When a bystander does decide to intervene, they should know that no matter what happens, they will not be arrested, and the violent criminal or lunatic will be.
Our media institutions can stop the relentless race baiting and slandering, and stop pretending that black people can do no wrong, and that anytime a white person hurts a black person, no matter how justified, it automatically makes them a racist.
There's a lot more that needs to be done, including actually enforcing the law and removing lunatics and homeless people from the trains so that bystanders aren't constantly faced with these situations in the first place.
But making it so good Samaritans don't need to fear the law, and being ostracized by the media, in top of all the other risk, would be a good start.
Jesse is less of a pussy than the average New Yorker, by a considerable margin, especially for a guy who isn't comfortable fighting.
Yes he spoke up, but I wouldn’t say that makes him considerably less of a pussy. I’m also not a fighting type, and I agree with his idea that aggressively seeking out fighting isn’t good, but it shouldn’t have been a look the other way thing at all. That’s the problem. He’s still a pussy cuz he just looked the other way until he finally couldn’t. Like almost all the other people on that train. So slightly less a pussy maybe, but not considerably. You gotta get up and make it clear that the behavior is unacceptable and if enough people start doing that together you can back down most of the crazies. And maybe the normal people can take back that shithole city.
Do you live in NYC, and ride the subway frequently?
Ignoring even crazy situations is the norm. And even if you're inclined to be a good Samaritan when you first move here, living in the city changes you.
Partly it desensitizes you, but mostly it's a matter of survival. You encounter crazy people and aggressive thugs looking for a fight every single day, often multiple times a day. You quickly realize that avoiding eye contact and pretending not to notice is the only way to be left alone (most of the time). You also realize that if you do get involved in an altercation, chances are that no one will help you. It's sad but it's true. And you realize this even more keenly if you've ever been assaulted, or had a close call, but you know in any case.
So yes, Jesse was significantly more brave than the average New Yorker.
Maybe that's a low bar, maybe that's a sad state of affairs, but the reasons for that aren't the fault of Jesse, or, any individual. We have a culture and society and legal system and media ecosystem where every incentive is to ignore everything and stay out of it.
I mean I live in Albuquerque so I completely understand everything you’re saying. Look at the wrong person funny and now you have a fentanyl fiend trying kick your ass or rob you. So most people do mind their business. But that is a problem. Especially for NY as I understand public transit is heavily relied on. I drive because I don’t wanna get stabbed by a bus crackhead. But I would fucking hope if that crackhead was trying to stab me people would intervene. That you cannot rely on the guy sitting next to you on a bus or train to help you fend off crazy homeless drug addicts is fucking pathetic. I’m not a fighter but I’m definitely not one to sit back and watch such injustice. It just takes all of us pussy normal people to push back but everyone’s head is so far up their own ass their fellow man can fuck off and fend for themselves.
It’s disgusting how far we’ve fallen. Just basic shit has gone out the window. Yeah the bar is about as low as it can can get. I just hate it so much. How do you fix that on a societal level? I don’t think you can.
There are steps that can be taken. Our politicians, prosecutors, and law enforcement leadership can stop arresting people for defending themselves. When a bystander does decide to intervene, they should know that no matter what happens, they will not be arrested, and the violent criminal or lunatic will be.
Our media institutions can stop the relentless race baiting and slandering, and stop pretending that black people can do no wrong, and that anytime a white person hurts a black person, no matter how justified, it automatically makes them a racist.
There's a lot more that needs to be done, including actually enforcing the law and removing lunatics and homeless people from the trains so that bystanders aren't constantly faced with these situations in the first place.
But making it so good Samaritans don't need to fear the law, and being ostracized by the media, in top of all the other risk, would be a good start.