I think there are genuinely people who experience gender dysphoria. I know many in these comment sections don’t agree but, whatever. I know many such people and even if you and I don’t believe they’re truly the “opposite” sex they really do.
This guy was just lying. He didn’t even believe that he was trans. I think that’s a pretty clear difference.
I think there are genuinely people who experience gender dysphoria. I know many in these comment sections don’t agree but, whatever. I know many such people and even if you and I don’t believe they’re truly the “opposite” sex they really do.
This guy was just lying. He didn’t even believe that he was trans. I think that’s a pretty clear difference.
Yes, but I think “gender dysphoria” is probably a severe form of anxiety, analogous to anorexia, for example, in which a person’s body becomes a focus of distress.
We can take that distress seriously without enabling it, just as we wouldn’t send an anorexic for liposuction.
This guy Josh may in in fact have an anxiety disorder of some kind (his behavior seems unhinged), in which case, if his expression of it was to LARP as trans, I’m not sure if he deserves censure necessarily.
I suppose it depends on how one defines the success of a treatment. Anorexics might feel better after getting liposuction. The placebo effect is well documented.
Rather than asking if someone feels better, an entirely subjective and difficult-to-measure question, perhaps a better question would be “How is that patient’s overall physical health?" Exogenous hormones are known to have detrimental impact on a number of body systems. Is the trade worthwhile? Some, of course, will say yes.
An excellent source for the history of how exogenous hormones have been used (for just about everything and by just about everybody, so not limited to the trans discourse) is Bob Ostertag’s Sex, Science, Self: A Social History of Estrogen, Testosterone, and Identity.
Success for me has meant being able to leave the house without a sense of dread and function in society instead of being largely confined to bed.
`Exogenous hormones are known to have detrimental impact...'
A fact that I am very much unhappy about and consistently reminded of but, again, it's the least bad outcome. Transitioning also cuts you off from society in many ways---it's not what most of us wanted but therapy isn't always able to resolve gender dysphoria.
As to your future health, I hope you can pursue real answers and not take the gender profession's claims at face value. Detransitioners have been publicizing some of the effects.
Bob Ostertag's book isn't about specific medical effects but it certainly is informative as to how and why we got to this place. He has been a gay/trans activist and writes from a place of concern for his community.
Thank you for the recommendation---it's certainly something that I'm interested in and appreciate.
As for the gender profession's claims: I recognize the reality of biological sex but also appreciate the social component of both gender and sex. J&K's discussion at the end of episode 234(?) describes two extremes on these views and they position themselves somewhere in between---and that's where I am too.
I think there are genuinely people who experience gender dysphoria. I know many in these comment sections don’t agree but, whatever. I know many such people and even if you and I don’t believe they’re truly the “opposite” sex they really do.
This guy was just lying. He didn’t even believe that he was trans. I think that’s a pretty clear difference.
Yes, but I think “gender dysphoria” is probably a severe form of anxiety, analogous to anorexia, for example, in which a person’s body becomes a focus of distress.
We can take that distress seriously without enabling it, just as we wouldn’t send an anorexic for liposuction.
This guy Josh may in in fact have an anxiety disorder of some kind (his behavior seems unhinged), in which case, if his expression of it was to LARP as trans, I’m not sure if he deserves censure necessarily.
Fortunately this area has been researched and HRT and other medical treatments do, in fact, mitigate gender dysphoria.
Transitioning is the least bad outcome for a lot of people.
I suppose it depends on how one defines the success of a treatment. Anorexics might feel better after getting liposuction. The placebo effect is well documented.
Rather than asking if someone feels better, an entirely subjective and difficult-to-measure question, perhaps a better question would be “How is that patient’s overall physical health?" Exogenous hormones are known to have detrimental impact on a number of body systems. Is the trade worthwhile? Some, of course, will say yes.
An excellent source for the history of how exogenous hormones have been used (for just about everything and by just about everybody, so not limited to the trans discourse) is Bob Ostertag’s Sex, Science, Self: A Social History of Estrogen, Testosterone, and Identity.
Success for me has meant being able to leave the house without a sense of dread and function in society instead of being largely confined to bed.
`Exogenous hormones are known to have detrimental impact...'
A fact that I am very much unhappy about and consistently reminded of but, again, it's the least bad outcome. Transitioning also cuts you off from society in many ways---it's not what most of us wanted but therapy isn't always able to resolve gender dysphoria.
I appreciate that--and am glad for you.
As to your future health, I hope you can pursue real answers and not take the gender profession's claims at face value. Detransitioners have been publicizing some of the effects.
Bob Ostertag's book isn't about specific medical effects but it certainly is informative as to how and why we got to this place. He has been a gay/trans activist and writes from a place of concern for his community.
Thank you for the recommendation---it's certainly something that I'm interested in and appreciate.
As for the gender profession's claims: I recognize the reality of biological sex but also appreciate the social component of both gender and sex. J&K's discussion at the end of episode 234(?) describes two extremes on these views and they position themselves somewhere in between---and that's where I am too.