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Aaron's avatar

Years ago on this podcast I believe, there was discussion of progressive backlash to Buttigieg. One sentiment was that Buttigieg is "gay but not queer". This to me is the best insight into what these people mean by the word "queer".

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Walker's avatar

“Be yourself! Unless you’re a conventional normie, then no, you’re awful.”

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Jane's avatar

Ahhhhh, you're taking me back to 2019, when one of the lefty outlets (new TNR or Slate, I forget) published an opinion piece making fun of him for supposedly only having had sex with his husband. It was like the far right morality police but for gay men. So cringe.

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Ullr's avatar

So cringe. I hope that Pete and Chastain can take some time for their family, they have 2 adopted? Kids right? Mayor Pete was my guy originally, until he had to toe the Trans activist line. Chastain talked about all the theater kids he worked with who just wanted to love their authentic life or something. Probably gay kids like you both!

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Kathleen's avatar

People still mad about gay marriage, but from the left

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Wendy's avatar

Reminds me of that butthead James Somerton who said that only the "boring" gay people survived the AIDS crisis and that's why they cared about marriage rights and military service in the 2000s. People in his mileau acted all shocked and appalled he said that, but his position is a logical extrapolation on how identitarians often scorn what they call "respectability politics." Their views on gender also jibe with their overall attitude that being gay is not about being homosexual, but about vibes and aesthetics; hence their belief that lesbians are attracted to "femme people" and not "female people."

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