Actually the point I was trying to make went entirely over your head. What difference does awareness of US school shootings among the British public make to the problem of school shootings in the US?
Anybody who didn't know about this before doesn't matter as their opinion makes no difference. That's my point.
Actually the point I was trying to make went entirely over your head. What difference does awareness of US school shootings among the British public make to the problem of school shootings in the US?
Anybody who didn't know about this before doesn't matter as their opinion makes no difference. That's my point.
In the case of school shootings, the effect is minor, not least because the UK doesn't influence the US as much as vice versa (except for cinema perhaps). In the case of the grooming gangs, it has a good chance of forcing the UK government (even a Labor one) to act, as it makes them look like the utterly craven losers they are.
Even within the UK, it strengthened the "something must be done" faction, as you can tell from JKR's twitter (to my knowledge she has been avoiding the topic previously).
You think the American public being upset about domestic UK policy can impact it? More so than the outrage of thr British public over the last 10 years? This (Musks tantrum) has been hardly covered in the UK, my husband didn't know anything about it.
Let's imagine this is true. You think ill-informed far right US outrage over something happening in another democratic country will impact its domestic policies in a way it otherwise wouldn't and this is a *good* thing?
Not to mention the motivation for this is purely, obviously, laughingly political.
What 'side', you don't know me or my takes from fucking Adam, so your projections are inane. You don't even know Sam's full name nor his angles, which makes you doubly obtuse. You Elon simps are ridiculous, calm down.
Elon simp or not, I donтАЩt think a body of water separating me from the UK makes me care less that this has been an issue. And I donтАЩt understand why talking about itтАЩs existence can be bad. If the objective is to get the issue resolved then more people at least bringing the subject up canтАЩt be a bad thing overall. Especially the richest guy in the world that owns one of the largest information dissemination companies in the world.
IтАЩd argue you have the opposite problem of simping with Musk. He might not be the most educated on the topic, but at least heтАЩs talking about it and that can lead to pressure on the right people to do the right thing.
But at the end of the day, IтАЩm sure we can all agree that less kid fucking is the desired outcome?
He's not 'talking about it' at all. He's tweeting incendiary crap he knows nothing about to distract and divide from the H1B backlash, this can't possibly be news. Do you really think he suddenly became concerned about a years long situation in Britain? Jess Phillips, whom he's called to be imprisoned, has been fighting against violence with women and girls for years - she now needs double security. We've had two MP killings here in the UK in the past decade - one right winger stabbed a young mother MP about her support for asylum seekers, so no, I'll call out Musk-sucking every time, especially by those who has even less clue about what they're talking about than he does so they can be a 'musk bro'. He's supremely quiet about the murders, kidnappings and rape of Ukrainian children by Russia, which is happening in real time, and the recent grooming issues from South Africa, his country of origin, but yeah, he 'cares about the kids'. Give me a fucking break.
Actually the point I was trying to make went entirely over your head. What difference does awareness of US school shootings among the British public make to the problem of school shootings in the US?
Anybody who didn't know about this before doesn't matter as their opinion makes no difference. That's my point.
In the case of school shootings, the effect is minor, not least because the UK doesn't influence the US as much as vice versa (except for cinema perhaps). In the case of the grooming gangs, it has a good chance of forcing the UK government (even a Labor one) to act, as it makes them look like the utterly craven losers they are.
Even within the UK, it strengthened the "something must be done" faction, as you can tell from JKR's twitter (to my knowledge she has been avoiding the topic previously).
You think the American public being upset about domestic UK policy can impact it? More so than the outrage of thr British public over the last 10 years? This (Musks tantrum) has been hardly covered in the UK, my husband didn't know anything about it.
Let's imagine this is true. You think ill-informed far right US outrage over something happening in another democratic country will impact its domestic policies in a way it otherwise wouldn't and this is a *good* thing?
Not to mention the motivation for this is purely, obviously, laughingly political.
As we saw with the Mauritius shenanigans, Starmer cares a lot about how he is viewed overseas.
American opinions absolutely cross the pond. DEI ideology has thoroughly infiltrated every layer of elite society in the UK.
and you're wrong. seems like they still care
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/04/grooming-gangs-scandal-cover-up-oldham-telford-rotherham/
Ah yes, Sam Ashworth-Hayes, not a politically motivated agenda there at all. (insert huge mother-fucking eye roll).
Yes, if someone is reporting about an atrocity that hurts your side, itтАЩs bad.
But if it hurts the right people, then you join in the outrage.
Sam-whoever-Hayes and Elon are bad messengers. We donтАЩt trust them.
So even if it involves literal kid fucking, letтАЩs keep that quiet.
Political tribalism has taken us to an absolute moral abyss.
Jesus fucking Christ.
What 'side', you don't know me or my takes from fucking Adam, so your projections are inane. You don't even know Sam's full name nor his angles, which makes you doubly obtuse. You Elon simps are ridiculous, calm down.
Elon simp or not, I donтАЩt think a body of water separating me from the UK makes me care less that this has been an issue. And I donтАЩt understand why talking about itтАЩs existence can be bad. If the objective is to get the issue resolved then more people at least bringing the subject up canтАЩt be a bad thing overall. Especially the richest guy in the world that owns one of the largest information dissemination companies in the world.
IтАЩd argue you have the opposite problem of simping with Musk. He might not be the most educated on the topic, but at least heтАЩs talking about it and that can lead to pressure on the right people to do the right thing.
But at the end of the day, IтАЩm sure we can all agree that less kid fucking is the desired outcome?
He's not 'talking about it' at all. He's tweeting incendiary crap he knows nothing about to distract and divide from the H1B backlash, this can't possibly be news. Do you really think he suddenly became concerned about a years long situation in Britain? Jess Phillips, whom he's called to be imprisoned, has been fighting against violence with women and girls for years - she now needs double security. We've had two MP killings here in the UK in the past decade - one right winger stabbed a young mother MP about her support for asylum seekers, so no, I'll call out Musk-sucking every time, especially by those who has even less clue about what they're talking about than he does so they can be a 'musk bro'. He's supremely quiet about the murders, kidnappings and rape of Ukrainian children by Russia, which is happening in real time, and the recent grooming issues from South Africa, his country of origin, but yeah, he 'cares about the kids'. Give me a fucking break.
then why do we care about any news outside of our county/state/country by your logic?