I donтАЩt think religious-with-a-side-of-ethnic bigotry is any better or worse than racism. Intent matters, but in this case the intent is the same: I will treat you as subhuman because you are not One Of Us.
I didn't say it was better or worse, I said it mattered. These men chose non-Muslim girls precisely because they don't think non-Muslim girls are even human. You may disagree, but I think it highlights an aspect of Muslim beliefs that is really terrible and it shouldn't be filed away as yet another straightforward example of racism.
In that case I agree with you - I thought you were trying to be dismissive of the notion that these were hate crimes. I donтАЩt get the sense that anyone in this thread would really push back on the notion that these men were part of a pretty toxic belief system.
I kind of hate to say that but it doesn't really surprise me that much. There seems to be a tendency among Muslims to dehumanize those not of their faith.
You aren't. The victims were chosen because they were not Muslim, not because they were white.
In a place where all the Muslims are brown and almost all the non-Muslims are white, this feels like a distinction without much of a difference.
I think intent matters.
I donтАЩt think religious-with-a-side-of-ethnic bigotry is any better or worse than racism. Intent matters, but in this case the intent is the same: I will treat you as subhuman because you are not One Of Us.
I didn't say it was better or worse, I said it mattered. These men chose non-Muslim girls precisely because they don't think non-Muslim girls are even human. You may disagree, but I think it highlights an aspect of Muslim beliefs that is really terrible and it shouldn't be filed away as yet another straightforward example of racism.
In that case I agree with you - I thought you were trying to be dismissive of the notion that these were hate crimes. I donтАЩt get the sense that anyone in this thread would really push back on the notion that these men were part of a pretty toxic belief system.
I kind of hate to say that but it doesn't really surprise me that much. There seems to be a tendency among Muslims to dehumanize those not of their faith.
It's the worst "normal" religion.