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I don’t know the person. But I’d imagine they’re talking about the play acting as if this story got anywhere close to sufficient coverage and that it wasn’t blocked at every turn, in research, in distribution, in response. Or, the acting as if it is being handled and has been handled with attention and care.

By Jesse’s own reporting ~100 people have been put in jail. By Julie Bindel’s reporting on this, which seems like a fair source because Jesse cites her frequently in this story, there are potentially 1M men that are involved in this organized rape of children. That is a 0.01% incarceration rate.

Further, by Jesse’s own reporting this story broke in 2007 (mainly by Bindel - by the way, reporting it had already been going on for decades), and by Jesse’s own reporting, they’re still discussing how to respond, what procedures to implement, new laws to make, oversight to be had, etc. Yet he acts like it is being

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Whoops. Pressed send by accident.

…yet he acts like this issue is being sufficiently addressed and appropriately handled. To be clear 2007 was 18 years ago. 18 fucking years ago, for a scandal that had already been going on for decades. A scandal that was the organized rape of potentially tens of thousands (again Bindels estimate) children by 1M people inside England. That also included law enforcement in every way but explicitly stating, ALLOWING the rapes to continue. And I am not being hyperbolic by using allowing, that is the most accurate way to describe what happened. Law enforcement many many many times was approached by a rape victim and they turned them away without doing anything. Many rape victims families went to law enforcement saying grown men had their children, they knew where their children were, and that they were being molested, and law enforcements response was “if they’re over 13 there is nothing we can do about it”. The age of consent in England has been 18 since the 1800s. Citing 13 as an age where the child could consent to being sexually abused was a way for them to not have to handle the issue.

Many will say law enforcement was stuck between a rock and a hard place, the perpetrators being mainly (like almost entirely) Pakistani immigrants. I do not care how heavily you weight that consideration, if you find it incredibly important, or think it is meaningless (like me), doesn’t matter. The second you choose a side between those considerations, you are ALLOWING the other to occur. If that is something you care about, you can argue a response of if law enforcement reacted in a heavy handed manner than they would have misidentified many immigrants and ultimately had a (in practice) racist reaction. Ok, fine. I would choose potentially ALLOWING many grown ups to be misidentified 100,000x over before allowing the continued rape of children. That seems like a very very very very easy choice to make. Then again I might be strange thinking the rape of children is literally worse than murder and potentially THE worst thing a person could do.

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