Struggling with BARpod these days. No better podcast in 2020-23. A rallying point for sanity. They rose to meet the moment. Now the times have changed and Jesse, who has many skills, is shoe-horning anti-Trump stuff to make the pod more like his dreadful X feed, on the theory that Trump's supporters use the internet a lot? OK sure. Anywa…
Struggling with BARpod these days. No better podcast in 2020-23. A rallying point for sanity. They rose to meet the moment. Now the times have changed and Jesse, who has many skills, is shoe-horning anti-Trump stuff to make the pod more like his dreadful X feed, on the theory that Trump's supporters use the internet a lot? OK sure. Anyway so much of it is now obvious and boring. (Yes Jack Poso is boring. Steve Bannon in contrast is interesting (but crazy).
So is BARpod becoming boring? Yeah I'm shocked but that's where I am heading. Jesse is very smart but politically he's a milquetoast Newton/Brooklyn liberal. In other words, a normie liberal. Totally fine. But having a normie liberal railing against Trump...that's just basic ubiquitous media content these days. Things get interesting when he's battling the near enemy. Liberal vs leftist? That's interesting bc there's a lot of energy there in both directions. Same is true on the right. The near-enemy battles are the most interesting, the most intense. So is Jesse just venting like on X, or is he trying to reestablish cred with Brooklyn leftists, which won't work? Or doing us a public service telling us the obvious ("this is not good")? I don't know. But my interest is kind of hanging on by a thread.
And no I'm not MAGA. I think we had the shittiest options in 2024 that I have seen in my lifetime. How the eff did we get here and how do we try to fix it? There have to be some funny and interesting stories there, on both sides? Or maybe not and maybe every cultural podcast has a finite lifespan.
I like my podcasts to be escapes from the frustrating everyday. I can read about the stupidity of tariffs in all my usual news outlets, but I come to BARpod for the ABDL/furry/YA drama/etc that broadens my world by opening up a whole universe of weird shit.
This seems exactly right. I am here for the obscure internet bullshit. Not to hear run-of-the-mill liberal critiques of Trump and his fans (or uninformed takes on American manufacturing capacity based on a podcast Katie listened to). They are treading awfully close to becoming boring, which would be a shame.
It’s not as if they can’t do serious (non-deviant weirdness) stories well - I found the “Mother Hunger” episode about surrogacy to be really thought-provoking. But ughghhhh I do not need more Trump stuff in my life.
It was interesting when they critiqued the Left--especially since general-media wasn't doing that critique, and even shutting it down. It was truly "blocked."
With Trump, the floodgates are and remain open by all for constant critique, but hearing it on B&R is just more of the same (from people I like and trust... but still more of the same thing I get from the general media).
We’ll be here when you’re ready to hear it lol gonna get harder and harder to hold that line buddy. It’s ok, I remember how hard it was for me when I started realising how fucking stupid a lot of what I’d blithely agreed with was, as a liberal.
Dude, you're hilarious. I was a never Trumper for a decade, a centrist Obama/Hillary/Biden voter. I still think Trump is mess. He had no business coming back in '24 as he did. What that required was libs/lefts/Dems being as bad at both governing and politics as I have ever seen. Top to bottom, blue cities, blue states, the federal government, media, elite universities. You guys gave us Trump again and you should think about that every time you see a piece of bad Trump-related news. Your cope is to mock the crazy too-online MAGAs. But you lost to those guys. Your team lost hugely and you can all blame it on Biden and sweep all the problems under the rug. But this is your collective doing and you're all repeating the mistakes. I would suggest from your tone that you haven't actually realized much.
Yeah - and Things ARE SO much better with the total evisceration of all the Agency budgets that were actually giving Americans bang for their tax dollars. I don't know like Cancer Research or School Lunchs or Education of any kind, Social Security. Just close your eyes and throw a dart & you will hit some necessary agency Trump has debilitated.
Oh and shipping people off to prison camps w/out due process against Judge orders. And totally flipping off SCOTUS regarding making an oopsie of sending a legal immigrants W/OUT evidence of ANY criminal history. Paving the way for sending "homegrown" criminals which are basically anyone that disagrees with Trump. Don't worry you are safe for now.
PLUS paying 10 to 150% taxes on Everything - but also getting a kick in the teeth in exchange for paying your income taxes. Because GUESS what Trump NEEDS to steal from you so he can shove MORE 💰 into the banks accounts of his Corporate Donors.
I didn't want Biden EVER, I was excited about Kamala - because at least she knew enough not to wipe her ass with the Constitution several times a day.
He was criticizing FP for not saying the US removing people for free-speech issues is wrong. But then FP published an Editors' editorial saying it was wrong.
I think Sullivan was targeting FP because it really focused on free speech when it launched.
Yeah, the issue is that if they’re not covering internet BS, them getting “political” is debunking the mainstream media narrative on things like Jacob Blake or “Karen” stories or trans kids fake science. This only works with Trump if they’re debunking mainstream stories about him. Except they can’t, so they’re just repeating the mainstream stories about Trump being wrong/stupid that we’ve all already heard everywhere else.
If you are looking for a interesting take on trump criticism, you should listen to sam harris talk to david french, a conservative christian. Hearing him explain why he think trump "works" for so many Christians who should abhor everything trump stands for
Struggling with BARpod these days. No better podcast in 2020-23. A rallying point for sanity. They rose to meet the moment. Now the times have changed and Jesse, who has many skills, is shoe-horning anti-Trump stuff to make the pod more like his dreadful X feed, on the theory that Trump's supporters use the internet a lot? OK sure. Anyway so much of it is now obvious and boring. (Yes Jack Poso is boring. Steve Bannon in contrast is interesting (but crazy).
So is BARpod becoming boring? Yeah I'm shocked but that's where I am heading. Jesse is very smart but politically he's a milquetoast Newton/Brooklyn liberal. In other words, a normie liberal. Totally fine. But having a normie liberal railing against Trump...that's just basic ubiquitous media content these days. Things get interesting when he's battling the near enemy. Liberal vs leftist? That's interesting bc there's a lot of energy there in both directions. Same is true on the right. The near-enemy battles are the most interesting, the most intense. So is Jesse just venting like on X, or is he trying to reestablish cred with Brooklyn leftists, which won't work? Or doing us a public service telling us the obvious ("this is not good")? I don't know. But my interest is kind of hanging on by a thread.
And no I'm not MAGA. I think we had the shittiest options in 2024 that I have seen in my lifetime. How the eff did we get here and how do we try to fix it? There have to be some funny and interesting stories there, on both sides? Or maybe not and maybe every cultural podcast has a finite lifespan.
I think Katie and Jesse are staying the same they have always been and are now covering a different media and political environment.
There's bound to be some resorting. Jesse has been critizing Michael Shellenberger. Andrew Sullivan has been mocking the Free Press.
Maybe their content isn't for you anymore.
I like my podcasts to be escapes from the frustrating everyday. I can read about the stupidity of tariffs in all my usual news outlets, but I come to BARpod for the ABDL/furry/YA drama/etc that broadens my world by opening up a whole universe of weird shit.
This seems exactly right. I am here for the obscure internet bullshit. Not to hear run-of-the-mill liberal critiques of Trump and his fans (or uninformed takes on American manufacturing capacity based on a podcast Katie listened to). They are treading awfully close to becoming boring, which would be a shame.
It’s not as if they can’t do serious (non-deviant weirdness) stories well - I found the “Mother Hunger” episode about surrogacy to be really thought-provoking. But ughghhhh I do not need more Trump stuff in my life.
It was interesting when they critiqued the Left--especially since general-media wasn't doing that critique, and even shutting it down. It was truly "blocked."
With Trump, the floodgates are and remain open by all for constant critique, but hearing it on B&R is just more of the same (from people I like and trust... but still more of the same thing I get from the general media).
Tbf hasn’t the majority of their content in the last 3-4 weeks been about internet dramas and people faking their death?
You nailed it. Thanks for saying what I've been feeling.
We’ll be here when you’re ready to hear it lol gonna get harder and harder to hold that line buddy. It’s ok, I remember how hard it was for me when I started realising how fucking stupid a lot of what I’d blithely agreed with was, as a liberal.
Dude, you're hilarious. I was a never Trumper for a decade, a centrist Obama/Hillary/Biden voter. I still think Trump is mess. He had no business coming back in '24 as he did. What that required was libs/lefts/Dems being as bad at both governing and politics as I have ever seen. Top to bottom, blue cities, blue states, the federal government, media, elite universities. You guys gave us Trump again and you should think about that every time you see a piece of bad Trump-related news. Your cope is to mock the crazy too-online MAGAs. But you lost to those guys. Your team lost hugely and you can all blame it on Biden and sweep all the problems under the rug. But this is your collective doing and you're all repeating the mistakes. I would suggest from your tone that you haven't actually realized much.
Yeah - and Things ARE SO much better with the total evisceration of all the Agency budgets that were actually giving Americans bang for their tax dollars. I don't know like Cancer Research or School Lunchs or Education of any kind, Social Security. Just close your eyes and throw a dart & you will hit some necessary agency Trump has debilitated.
Oh and shipping people off to prison camps w/out due process against Judge orders. And totally flipping off SCOTUS regarding making an oopsie of sending a legal immigrants W/OUT evidence of ANY criminal history. Paving the way for sending "homegrown" criminals which are basically anyone that disagrees with Trump. Don't worry you are safe for now.
PLUS paying 10 to 150% taxes on Everything - but also getting a kick in the teeth in exchange for paying your income taxes. Because GUESS what Trump NEEDS to steal from you so he can shove MORE 💰 into the banks accounts of his Corporate Donors.
I didn't want Biden EVER, I was excited about Kamala - because at least she knew enough not to wipe her ass with the Constitution several times a day.
The fact that Sullivan and the FP are both conservative makes it an especially interesting
He was criticizing FP for not saying the US removing people for free-speech issues is wrong. But then FP published an Editors' editorial saying it was wrong.
I think Sullivan was targeting FP because it really focused on free speech when it launched.
That Sullivan and the FP are considered “conservative” shows just how far the Overton window has shifted leftward.
Yeah, the issue is that if they’re not covering internet BS, them getting “political” is debunking the mainstream media narrative on things like Jacob Blake or “Karen” stories or trans kids fake science. This only works with Trump if they’re debunking mainstream stories about him. Except they can’t, so they’re just repeating the mainstream stories about Trump being wrong/stupid that we’ve all already heard everywhere else.
If you are looking for a interesting take on trump criticism, you should listen to sam harris talk to david french, a conservative christian. Hearing him explain why he think trump "works" for so many Christians who should abhor everything trump stands for