My son was given some iq or cognitive assessment in kindergarten and did very poorly on comprehension part (maybe called differently, it's been few years). When I looked at questions they asked, a lot of them referenced the Cinderella story and Jack and the beanstalk, that my son never even heard of. Maybe this is one the reasons these tests are not very reliable.
My son was given some iq or cognitive assessment in kindergarten and did very poorly on comprehension part (maybe called differently, it's been few years). When I looked at questions they asked, a lot of them referenced the Cinderella story and Jack and the beanstalk, that my son never even heard of. Maybe this is one the reasons these tests are not very reliable.
why are you being like this? I just dug through my son's IEP records from 2018. Multiple tests were performed as a part of his assessment, one of them was TERA-4, it's used by multiple school districts, not just MA where i am. From the top of the google results also MN and TX, but i too lazy to search further.
this is from the report:
"Overall, on Tera-4, Ian obtained a general Reading Index of 91; his score corresponds to a percentile rank of 27"
"Ian had difficulty when asked to identify the names of three familiar (!) stories (i.e., Little Red Riding Hood, Jack and the beanstalk, The three little pigs) when shown a picture from each."
This is not an IQ test though, it is a part a standard assessment for children. Some parts are more abstract and do not include references to any FAMILIAR stories
Some people are really invested in the idea that any measure of “IQ” or “cognitive ability” is some objective measure of your actual intelligence stat, like in an RPG, that has nothing to do with practice or learned skills or knowledge.
Examples like this, which are legion, are dismissed in order to keep doubt at bay. identity as a “high IQ person”. Or even worse, self identity as a member of a “high IQ race” are powerful to peoples worldviews and difficult to shake
My daughter at three failed the “itsy bisty spider test” which is meant to be a test of fine motor skills. But Because we hadn’t happened to have taught her that particular song/game she had no idea what the doctor was asking…
and i am not even saying ALL tests are affected, but some definitely are. My son also had a hard time putting together a 3 piece clock puzzle at 3 yo. And is on a honor roll now in 6th grade
My son was given some iq or cognitive assessment in kindergarten and did very poorly on comprehension part (maybe called differently, it's been few years). When I looked at questions they asked, a lot of them referenced the Cinderella story and Jack and the beanstalk, that my son never even heard of. Maybe this is one the reasons these tests are not very reliable.
Without knowing which test your son took, we can’t say anything about its reliability or predictive power…
Tests of reading comprehension typically have several passages- so that unfamiliarity with one doesn’t skew the results.
Are you saying the fact the test creator assumed a child is familiar with these stories is irrelevant to the result?
I’m saying your anecdote about one single test doesn’t invalidate every cognitive test ever made.
why are you being like this? I just dug through my son's IEP records from 2018. Multiple tests were performed as a part of his assessment, one of them was TERA-4, it's used by multiple school districts, not just MA where i am. From the top of the google results also MN and TX, but i too lazy to search further.
this is from the report:
"Overall, on Tera-4, Ian obtained a general Reading Index of 91; his score corresponds to a percentile rank of 27"
"Ian had difficulty when asked to identify the names of three familiar (!) stories (i.e., Little Red Riding Hood, Jack and the beanstalk, The three little pigs) when shown a picture from each."
This is not an IQ test though, it is a part a standard assessment for children. Some parts are more abstract and do not include references to any FAMILIAR stories
Some people are really invested in the idea that any measure of “IQ” or “cognitive ability” is some objective measure of your actual intelligence stat, like in an RPG, that has nothing to do with practice or learned skills or knowledge.
Examples like this, which are legion, are dismissed in order to keep doubt at bay. identity as a “high IQ person”. Or even worse, self identity as a member of a “high IQ race” are powerful to peoples worldviews and difficult to shake
My daughter at three failed the “itsy bisty spider test” which is meant to be a test of fine motor skills. But Because we hadn’t happened to have taught her that particular song/game she had no idea what the doctor was asking…
and i am not even saying ALL tests are affected, but some definitely are. My son also had a hard time putting together a 3 piece clock puzzle at 3 yo. And is on a honor roll now in 6th grade