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Somethingsomething's avatar

I think that you very much are underestimating the negative effects of Qanon supporters and Trump supporters. I mean there were people who made threats of violence against a pizza place in DC just because of a weird conspiracy theory about us sex dungeon in non-existent basement. I was in Detroit during the election in the counting of the ballots and boy did Trump supporters harass the shit out of everyone down there even before it was called because of this conspiracy theory from Donald Trump. It was violent and they were trying to throw out all the votes in Michigan which does cause harm to those of us who live here and could be deprived are legitimate rights. I won’t even go on about all the armed protest and threats against the governor of Michigan that are pretty friggin scary. Now you can freely believe that only people on the left are a problem but like I think you might be also overly biased.

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Lilith's avatar

I don't live in America, so I don't have any direct experience on the Qannon nonsense or the full effects of the Russia gate nonsense, so you could well be right, though I suspect that the harm may not be systemic enough to qualify. 6 million people were killed in the hollocost. Millions of people were displaced and several countries were destroyed in the post Sept 11 madness. Millions of people have lost their livelihoods, and people have effectively lost their right to bodily autonomy. This is harm on a massive scale, supported by the majority of the population. Qanon may be crazy, but I'm not sure (from a distance) what they have done that has constituted that kind of harm. I would also dispute that the DNC, silicon valley, or the mainstream media are "the left", I would tend to describe them as neoliberal corporatists, as to be left wing is to support the redistribution of wealth (from the rich to the poor), while the DNC and RNC are both united in their efforts to redistribute wealth in the opposite direction. But listen to some of Dr Desmet's interviews and make up your own mind, he's the expert on this, not me.

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Lilith's avatar

If Gretchen Whitmore is the Governor of Michigan then I don't think that the plot against her can be put down to mass formation hypnosis/psychosis as the majority of the conspirators were working for your government, as has been widely reported.

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