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Thanks. I have hope that someday we'll look back on these crazy times and laugh. "Remember when you insisted that you were nonbinary and I tried to tell you that everyone's nonbinary and you threatened to never speak to me again? LOL!" But for now we find less volatile sources of humor.

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Good for you! I tried a lot of those arguments (I was sure the kickass Grandma would do the trick!) but made the mistake of putting them in writing, because we were thousands of miles apart and because writing is how I clarify my thinking. It did not go well, so for the time being I will just keep walking on eggshells and hope she comes around on her own. It doesn't help that she has a large "queer family" plus my own extremely tolerant family nearby. At least she still answers my emails and very occasional phone calls.

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No, she's a middle-aged NB. Sorry if that wasn't clear. No grandchildren for me.

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Must Pavlove Dogs's avatar

Those are great arguments that I may try using (hopefully it won't come to that, but gotta be prepared).

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I'm saving your list of arguments in case I know of anyone who needs ideas.

Had to laugh at #5 because there's always a new one...

Do young women that say they're non-binary not realize that it's not a way to escape female oppression (in a global sense, I think of examples like Malala... saying that you aren't a girl doesn't change how others see you).

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ThinkPieceOfPie's avatar

I love your list. I have also had success with "look at all the non-conformists non-conforming in exactly the same way, isn't that interesting."

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