Yeah. When we had my DEI two month training, the two trainers were explicitly anti capitalist. Which was HILARIOUS because the black woman definitely had her own consulting firm. And the two trainers were getting paid a hell pf a lot more than those of us attending the training. Plus we still had to work.
Yeah. When we had my DEI two month training, the two trainers were explicitly anti capitalist. Which was HILARIOUS because the black woman definitely had her own consulting firm. And the two trainers were getting paid a hell pf a lot more than those of us attending the training. Plus we still had to work.
Also. In regards to white women's tears leading to black men getting lynched. First. When was the last time this happened? Second. I remember reading about, what was it, kidney gate? The white woman who donated her kidney and her friends made fun of her and it became a whole mess. And there was an article in the student paper at the University of Chicago, and based on the guy's name, I would say he may have been black but more likely South Asian, and he was talking about the white woman getting upset about getting mocked was reminiscent of white women crying and black men getting lynched. And he meant it. But like. What white woman has gotten an Asian woman killed? And again. When was the last time a white woman has caused a black man to die in this wss?
ETA: I do not think there has ever been real change in people when they hsve been hostilely confronted. That is not how homophobia massively decreased. And if we look at substance use treatment. For years the method was - you are an alcoholic and your lool how you have ironed things. But it turned out not to be effective. I am betting the same is true of anti racism training.
Finally. Feigned innocence? Why the assumption that people already know and are pretending?
I strongly believe things change when you highlight what people have in common, rather than what divides them. I’d love to know what DEI trainers think of the SNL Tom Hanks Black Jeopardy sketch.
Especially when it would become clear that the ladies involved in Race2Dinner have more in common with the the white women they’re berating than the majority of the BIPOC people they’re advocating for.
That was so damn good. Or the song Everyone' s A Little Bit Racist from Avenue Q.
Also. I agreed with Helen about really talking about things especially in a multicultural setting. In our training, thag was the part I found really helpful. However. We were then split into affinity groups - 1 for white and white passing and 1 for POC. And we were told this was anti tscist. But I.am not sure how.
I am glad the Race2Dinner women are not making money off it but I am not sure how it helps anyone. And Rao seemed really really angry. And pretty sure the angry thing applies to black people not POC in general.
The best thing the “white accountability” group did at my job was have an all company pizza party because literally everyone loves pizza. It was the most diverse event we’ve ever had lol.
I watch that sketch often (don't judge, weed is legal here). I really think it was the last desperate mainstream attempt at uniting America. After that we realized, yeah nothing's going to work until we get a civil war or this hysteria blows itself out.
It speaks to the great unspoken issue in America: class. If the lower middle class/working class of the US ever realized how they were being manipulated to hate each other through identity politics, then some real progress could be made.
'In regards to white women's tears leading to black men getting lynched. First. When was the last time this happened?'
This is absolutely not the point. The chances that a white woman's tears during DEI training will result in a black man being lynched are pretty much the same as that they'll result in his abduction by aliens. However, while we'd quickly tune out a work training that told people to change their behavior based on the perceived threat of alien abduction, women just need to suck up being mocked to avoid something else that is about as common.
The thing is. No one is saying that white women crying will lead to a black man getting lynched. The logic is that it REMINDS black people of how white women crying led to black men getting lynched and therefore it causes trauma and/ or black people feel like they have to comfort the white woman.. It is strange
Yeah. When we had my DEI two month training, the two trainers were explicitly anti capitalist. Which was HILARIOUS because the black woman definitely had her own consulting firm. And the two trainers were getting paid a hell pf a lot more than those of us attending the training. Plus we still had to work.
Also. In regards to white women's tears leading to black men getting lynched. First. When was the last time this happened? Second. I remember reading about, what was it, kidney gate? The white woman who donated her kidney and her friends made fun of her and it became a whole mess. And there was an article in the student paper at the University of Chicago, and based on the guy's name, I would say he may have been black but more likely South Asian, and he was talking about the white woman getting upset about getting mocked was reminiscent of white women crying and black men getting lynched. And he meant it. But like. What white woman has gotten an Asian woman killed? And again. When was the last time a white woman has caused a black man to die in this wss?
ETA: I do not think there has ever been real change in people when they hsve been hostilely confronted. That is not how homophobia massively decreased. And if we look at substance use treatment. For years the method was - you are an alcoholic and your lool how you have ironed things. But it turned out not to be effective. I am betting the same is true of anti racism training.
Finally. Feigned innocence? Why the assumption that people already know and are pretending?
I strongly believe things change when you highlight what people have in common, rather than what divides them. I’d love to know what DEI trainers think of the SNL Tom Hanks Black Jeopardy sketch.
But highlighting what people have in common would put those trainers out of business.
Especially when it would become clear that the ladies involved in Race2Dinner have more in common with the the white women they’re berating than the majority of the BIPOC people they’re advocating for.
That was so damn good. Or the song Everyone' s A Little Bit Racist from Avenue Q.
Also. I agreed with Helen about really talking about things especially in a multicultural setting. In our training, thag was the part I found really helpful. However. We were then split into affinity groups - 1 for white and white passing and 1 for POC. And we were told this was anti tscist. But I.am not sure how.
I am glad the Race2Dinner women are not making money off it but I am not sure how it helps anyone. And Rao seemed really really angry. And pretty sure the angry thing applies to black people not POC in general.
The best thing the “white accountability” group did at my job was have an all company pizza party because literally everyone loves pizza. It was the most diverse event we’ve ever had lol.
I watch that sketch often (don't judge, weed is legal here). I really think it was the last desperate mainstream attempt at uniting America. After that we realized, yeah nothing's going to work until we get a civil war or this hysteria blows itself out.
It speaks to the great unspoken issue in America: class. If the lower middle class/working class of the US ever realized how they were being manipulated to hate each other through identity politics, then some real progress could be made.
I think a lot of people do recognize it. They know that no political leaders really give a shit about the working class, so they don't bother voting.
Watching that sketch now. I forgot about this one!
'In regards to white women's tears leading to black men getting lynched. First. When was the last time this happened?'
This is absolutely not the point. The chances that a white woman's tears during DEI training will result in a black man being lynched are pretty much the same as that they'll result in his abduction by aliens. However, while we'd quickly tune out a work training that told people to change their behavior based on the perceived threat of alien abduction, women just need to suck up being mocked to avoid something else that is about as common.
The thing is. No one is saying that white women crying will lead to a black man getting lynched. The logic is that it REMINDS black people of how white women crying led to black men getting lynched and therefore it causes trauma and/ or black people feel like they have to comfort the white woman.. It is strange