137 Comments

If the NFL (or any other industry for that matter) was 70% white, the same people would see that as clear evidence of systemic racism and oppression.

Expand full comment

I was actually hoping that Jesse would dig into the studies about gas stoves and asthma being touted in the press—they seem to be pretty shoddy, and the supposed outcomes vastly overstated (which the media of course ran with). He often reports on how the media does a poor job in representing scientific findings, so this seems like it should be in his wheelhouse.

Expand full comment
Jan 14, 2023·edited Jan 14, 2023

I thiiiiiink I sort of understand the NFL-is-racist argument, in that black men are the majority of NFL players. Owners, coaches, and managers tend to be white. Except for a few players, the coaches and owners really have all the power. So in that sense, it is white men holding power over black men. And I guess the other argument is that these black men are getting hurt playing for these white men, and I guess the argument is that their, ahem, bodies matter less than if they were white men. The problem of course is that this has ALWAYS been an issue with the NFL, back when more players were white. And they were nowhere near as well compensated.

And as for earning in the mid did figures. That is HELLA good money, much more than the vast majority of us would hope to make. It is possible that so many football players go broke because they graduated with useless degrees. But I remember watching some ESPN doc about tue NFL, and it also seemed like the players spent like the money would always be there.

But also. Can we NOT with the "we have progressed a little" in terms of race? There has been so much progress. There is so much to be done. But let us keep in mind that where we are now compared to where we were in the 1960s is worlds apart. And maybe if we focus on the progress we have made and what was effective, we can continue to improve

Expand full comment

Jesus Christ Katie and Jessie, "Buffalo Bills" is word play on the famous name, "Buffalo Bill."

Expand full comment

Jesse is a pervert for nuance...unlessssss he’s talking about a conservatives or Republicans

Expand full comment

You know who else liked cooking with gas? ADOLF HITLER. Yeah. That’s who you monsters are aligning with. Do 👏 better 👏.

Expand full comment
Jan 16, 2023·edited Jan 17, 2023

Not wanting to go overly deep on medicine, but the difference between a “heart attack” and a “cardiac arrest” is important and not intuitive. Damar Hamlin did not have a “heart attack”.

The term “heart attack” (myocardial infarction) means that a piece of your heart died, because it lost its blood supply. Could be a big part or a small part. In a heart attack, the rest of your heart is theoretically fine and keeps beating. Obviously, if a large enough part of your heart dies, the rest of it will fail and you will die (from cardiac arrest). However, many people with smaller heart attacks are relatively okay. Sometimes they have classic crushing chest pain. Sometimes they have other symptoms (women in particular are more likely to have pain elsewhere). Sometimes they don’t notice anything at all. If you have a heart attack, you need immediate medical help to try and save as much heart tissue from dying as possible and to prevent complications. You don’t necessarily pass out, and you don’t need a defibrillator as long as you are conscious.

Conversely a cardiac arrest means that your heart is not beating. This is sometimes used as the definition of “death” (there’s some ambiguity on this). If you have a cardiac arrest, you are not getting blood to the rest of your body, you pass out in seconds, and you are gone. A heart attack is one reason to have a cardiac arrest, but there are others, so the heart muscle is not necessarily damaged, it just isn’t pumping. Sometimes, the heart can be restarted (this is what a defibrillator is for). CPR replaces the function of a beating heart, marginally and for a short time, to buy time to get the defibrillator going. Damar Hamlin had a cardiac arrest. He got CPR and defibrillation, which restarted his heart.

As far as I know, it’s still unclear what caused this incident, and the role of COVID shots in heart issues is a complex topic that is the subject of rigorous debate. Just want to clear up the basic terms here.

Expand full comment

A Buffalo Bill is a talented entertainer with money issues and marriage problems.

So perfect for a football team.

Expand full comment

Some additional background on Dungy. He was the first Black head coach to win a Super Bowl (Super XLI - played against his former assistant coach Lovie Smith, another Black man). Many of the Black coaches in the NFL for a long time were former assistants of his and he has arguably has done more to bring Black men into the top coaching positions in the NFL than any other individual. After he retired, he dedicated much of his time to prison ministry (https://www.prisonfellowship.org/2013/04/thirty-minutes-tony-dungy/).

His "conservative bent" became controversial when he started funding campaigns in favor of Proposition 8 back in the aughts. LZ Gunderson, a Black gay writer who was working at ESPN at the time, had a good article about how he reconciles all the good Dungy did for Black men with the homophobia that hurts gay men.

And Jesse, didn't Julian Edelman play on the Patriots for years?

Expand full comment
Jan 16, 2023·edited Jan 17, 2023

Katie, the old joke is a "NYT's headline" - "World ends tomorrow, women, blacks hit hardest"

Expand full comment

I love football (particularly collegiate football) but I've always been deeply bothered by how the highschool-to-pro pipeline seems to be set up to just let people fail in the long term. I've watched so many kids get drafted out from the colleges I follow into the NFL without a degree or a real plan for when they won't be able to play, only to get injured and run out of money in really short order. And the introduction of the college portal is only going to make the problem worse- football is an incredibly demanding sport, but the worst part is how it just chews people up; three years isn't a career, it's a phase, and if you have comparatively few options after you're done, then what's the point? Not everyone can go into coaching or land brand deals. It's kind of a tangential point, but it especially hits players who just haven't had real money before and don't know what to do with it, and I honestly think that's the biggest disservice in the whole sport. College and the NFL fail players routinely in this way and it's just sad.

Expand full comment

That Battletech scammer is a scummy, lying fantasist, but because he brought down a right-winger, it’s all okay?! And the hint of transness/not transness look like a way to avoid any criticism. Does anyone else remember that American student who pretended to be an Iranian lesbian about 10 years or so ago? He just disappeared, but nowadays he’d probably be lauded for brining attention to the plight of queer Iranians. Just so damned ridiculous!

Expand full comment

Cincinnati Bagels eh Jessie? Good team!

Expand full comment
Jan 17, 2023·edited Jan 17, 2023

Why the glancing critique of Elon for letting Rebecca Jones back on Twitter? If it’s truly going to evolve into a royal rumble of competing ideas, then this is a sign that things are working properly.

If she’s really an obvious, easy-to-detect fraud and a grifter, then the absolute best thing to do is give her a megaphone and let her speak freely. That’s what Twitter is.

As usual, the biggest harm comes from institutional actors: the NPR journalists and others who first gave her a platform and uncritically amplified her bogus messages.

Expand full comment

I still see people posting about the oppression of Rebekah Jones on Facebook. I think it’s just become part of the anti-DeSantis canon (people really really want to believe that DeSantis policies caused some kind of massive death wave).

Expand full comment

Enjoying the updates on old stories!!!

Expand full comment